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Question @ the Board for @nodejs/build: what is the level of concern re bus-factor for people and redundancy for build resources required for releases. The question is specifically around the ARM cluster and the planned outage we had there (I clarified that releases were not impacted), but from our perspective I think macOS redundancy is much more of a problem right now and the people bus-factor might be something else we should be putting our attention on.
I'd put macOS redundancy and perhaps my ability to a degree as well. I definitely haven't been as responsive and/or active this quarter as last quarter.
@mhdawson I don't think the 3pm one is right, that's 6am for me but I haven't ended DST yet, that'll happen next week and this slot will move to 5am, it's never been that early for me, it's always been 7am during DST and 6am during the rest of the year. I suspect that calendar entry was set to a US TZ and got shifted when the US hit DST when it should have been tied to UTC. Either way, can we do this at 4pm Eastern? Otherwise I'm won't make it.
I added this to the calendar with EST timezone. I usually always add them as UTC but this one was - specifically stated at EST. I should have clarified. Happy to update to UTC - just LMK!
I'm confused at what time it's really happening now- the title of this issue says 4PM EST, the OP says 3PM EST.
Sorry for my late notice but I won't be able to join. My efforts since last time:
jenkins master security updates, twice
play around with the tap2junit parser -- it will bail on citgm stuff; needs to be refactored
fix disk issues on joyent freebsd workers which seems to have changed how disk is mounted which led to disk issues.
housekeeping on a few workers
..as for my input:
I'd like to bring up MacOS workers for discussion. We had an interesting opportunity which led into this and back to sleep. After we've sorted that we can revisit the opportunity and increase both redundancy and os versions tested.
Bus factor: I like Michaels idea of primary/backup for positions. Which would these positions be though? My ambition is that everybody in the build group would help out with the level of access they have -- meaning all of our members should feel free to look at restarting/debugging individual workers. As for the higher tiers; we need to start by defining these positions.
Adding Kunal: SGTM 👍
I believe we were to remove the agenda label from a few of the raised topics as a result of previous meeting. Not sure that happened.
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rvagg commentedon Mar 27, 2017
Question @ the Board for @nodejs/build: what is the level of concern re bus-factor for people and redundancy for build resources required for releases. The question is specifically around the ARM cluster and the planned outage we had there (I clarified that releases were not impacted), but from our perspective I think macOS redundancy is much more of a problem right now and the people bus-factor might be something else we should be putting our attention on.
jbergstroem commentedon Mar 27, 2017
I'd put macOS redundancy and perhaps my ability to a degree as well. I definitely haven't been as responsive and/or active this quarter as last quarter.
rvagg commentedon Mar 28, 2017
@mhdawson I don't think the 3pm one is right, that's 6am for me but I haven't ended DST yet, that'll happen next week and this slot will move to 5am, it's never been that early for me, it's always been 7am during DST and 6am during the rest of the year. I suspect that calendar entry was set to a US TZ and got shifted when the US hit DST when it should have been tied to UTC. Either way, can we do this at 4pm Eastern? Otherwise I'm won't make it.
williamkapke commentedon Mar 28, 2017
I added this to the calendar with EST timezone. I usually always add them as UTC but this one was - specifically stated at EST. I should have clarified. Happy to update to UTC - just LMK!
I'm confused at what time it's really happening now- the title of this issue says 4PM EST, the OP says 3PM EST.
piccoloaiutante commentedon Mar 28, 2017
I should be able to make it.
mhdawson commentedon Mar 28, 2017
Ok, based on the input from @rvagg lets agree its 4pm EST.
gibfahn commentedon Mar 28, 2017
@williamkapke is that calendar linked from nodejs/node (or somewhere else, I haven't found the link yet)?
richardlau commentedon Mar 28, 2017
@gibfahn There's a link at the bottom of the TSC meeting minutes, e.g. https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/blob/master/meetings/2017-03-09.md
williamkapke commentedon Mar 28, 2017
@mhdawson I've updated it to use 8PM GMT:

jbergstroem commentedon Mar 28, 2017
Sorry for my late notice but I won't be able to join. My efforts since last time:
..as for my input:
mhdawson commentedon Mar 28, 2017
Link for participants: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/KOIfKbVSfs8CMc3OB3XsoxoKlDtgpIGkbsfAvJbRIe8=?eid=100598160817214911030&hl=en_US&authuser=0
williamkapke commentedon Mar 28, 2017
I asked a question in IRC
gibfahn commentedon Mar 29, 2017
Minutes here: #665
gibfahn commentedon Mar 31, 2017
Minutes landed, closing.